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Do you center the boot on the board or do you center the front of your boot and the rear heel cup on your board?  Thanks.


   
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Centered between the edges. James covers this in the interface video, or maybe the binding video. sorry I'm not much help. 

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Posted by: @slarverjerry

Do you center the boot on the board or do you center the front of your boot and the rear heel cup on your board?

Center the boot and binding together to equalize the overhang or underhang toe and heel.  If you use a rear entry binding then the boot will also be centered when you do this.

This discussion could get quite technical but this method is simple and very close to where you would end up anyway.

I'll take a little bias towards the toes sometimes because toe drag is easier to deal with whereas heel drag (or heelcup drag) can be more catastrophic.  I'm talking a few millimeters.

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Posted by: @wild-cherry

I'll take a little bias towards the toes sometimes because toe drag is easier to deal with whereas heel drag (or heelcup drag) can be more catastrophic.  I'm talking a few millimeters.

Wasn’t there also a discussion in one of the threads that since the leg ”attaches” to the foot at the heel, and the back foot is angled more across the board and towards the waist of the board, having the back foot slightly biased towards the toe side makes for a more stable platform? The reasoning was that when centering the boot on the board you’re basically very slightly putting your back foot behind you and your front foot in front of you when you center like that

Its all very marginal and I seriously doubt I would feel any difference at all. 

I center my boot on the board without thinking about any of the above. 

 

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I try to centre the boot, but if I need to I’ll put my toes a bit closer to the edge.  You mostly weight your foot on the heel & ball (not really your toes), so you get similar leverage, with less heelcup drag.  Perhaps I should deliberately go further.

There are some people that go for more heel overhang, but I presume they’re not angulating the board as much on the heelside. (Ie not really carving).

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Posted by: @superfelix

having the back foot slightly biased towards the toe side makes for a more stable platform?

This is true.

But the back toes are closest to the narrowest part of the board so there's a trade off (as usual).

 

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Its all very marginal and I seriously doubt I would feel any difference at all. 

This is also kinda true...

But I have experienced catastrophic boot out on the heelside on some boards where the angular momentum keeps me spinning until I'm on my back hurling down the hill head first with no control.  At that point I'll offset to toeside a little...  (I sold that board though, and now I ride with some underhang so at least I can dig in my heel edge and slow down when this happens.)

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Posted by: @board-doctor

There are some people that go for more heel overhang, but I presume they’re not angulating the board as much on the heelside. (Ie not really carving).

Have you talked with anyone that deliberately go for heelside overhang or is it just something you've observed? Because I've seen it lots, and many that mount bindings for rental seem to bias for overhang on the heelside, but I've always just chalked it up to laziness/inattentiveness/not caring. I'm just curious what the potential benefit would be. 

Because even if we disregard dragging the heelcup when riding I find heelside overhang to be super annoying when you skate as I would catch my toes on the heelcup...

 


   
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So if I center my boot on my board my heel cup will overhang more than the toe side of my boot by quite a bit.  Is that what i should do?  Or should I center the toe of my boot with the rear of my binding heel cup on my board? 


   
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@superfelix I’ve seen the heel bias recommendation on the snowboardingforum.com because “you’re more likely to drag your toes”.  I presume these are newbies that don't really carve heelside.

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@slarverjerry Does the heel cup just overhang more or is it really limiting the angle on edge?  If it’s really bad, you might consider a binding with a smaller, higher, or even no heelcup.

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Posted by: @slarverjerry

So if I center my boot on my board my heel cup will overhang more than the toe side of my boot by quite a bit.  Is that what i should do?  Or should I center the toe of my boot with the rear of my binding heel cup on my board? 

Unless and until you're booting out, either way is fine.  If you're carving and suddenly find yourself on your ass, offset towards the toes a bit more and/or get a lower profile binding as @board-doctor recommended. 

 

If you're in the smallest boot your can comfortably ride (performance fit) and a rear entry or low profile binding and you're still struggling with boot drag, congratulations, you're finally carving!  Now you need a wider board and/or risers...

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Okay thanks


   
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