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Question about Stacking your weight over the edge

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(@skoonk)
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Hi all, sorry for more questions about technique. I got a insta360 and have some video of my bad carving technique, but before I post those (I still need to edit the footage and post on Youtube) but I want to try to figure it out by myself first.

1.) What does "stack your weight over the edge mean"? How does this affect the hips? I understand that the upper body should remain upright as possible, but what about your hips? Can someone show a diagram by any chance?

Here's a screenshot of Lars in a heelside turn. Would stacking your weight on the edge mean your COM is intersecting the red dotted line?

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(@skoonk)
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Oh also can someone clarify "breaking at the waist" means?


   
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@skoonk 

"Stacking your weight over the edge" refers mostly to the crunching and stretching in the obliques.  But it's just a cue, not a movement in itself, and you could only truly stack your weight over the edge if you were balancing there with no speed.  (That position with speed would lead to turning the board and creating centripetal forces which would unbalance you, forcing you to lean into the turn to compensate, and not be "stacked over the edge" anymore right?)

 

I prefer to describe the movement by bringing focus to the obliques as above and by constantly reminding riders to "keep your shoulders level", as in the Tray Drill.

 

So on toeside, you stretch through the rear oblique and crunch in the front obliques to keep your shoulders level.  This movement brings your upper body closer over your edge, thereby "stacking your weight over the edge".

 

Heelside is the opposite of course, you crunch in the rear oblique and stretch in the front, again bringing your upper body away from the inside of the turn and coming closer to "stacking your weight over the edge".

 

In a way, your position is as though you had stacked your body weight over the edge (like balancing on edge on a carpet) and then just leaned over, keeping your shoulders level.  But again, just a cue, not to be taken too literally.

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Board Doctor
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Breaking at the waist is when you’re not bending toward the nose, but sticking your butt out heel side, folding/breaking at the waist, and sticking your chest out over the toeside (like a weird counter balance for your centre of mass).  When you loose tension in the waist you can’t really control body movements and you’re kinda just along for the ride.

Big White, BC, Canada


   
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Board Doctor
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Don’t be a poo man!

Big White, BC, Canada


   
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(@skoonk)
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@wild-cherry makes sense and I will try to get video, kind of hard to describe with words what I'm doing wrong. There were times I crunched the obliques and it didn't really do anything. I feel like "crunching the obliques" relies on a proper hip movement first, if that makes sense...

So I agree that you shouldn't stick your butt back (breaking at the waist) like @board-doctor mentioned. Are you moving your hips laterally side to side then? How would you lean your lower body as much as possible to the inside of the turn?


   
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