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Posted by: @xargo

Yeah the turn shape for those laid down carves is tighter for that board compared to my 16m scr Coiler for sure. However, what I meant with quick slashing type carves was with pretty upright position. Here's an example with that same Tracer but with duck stance:

That video is a bit older and I hadn't really learned the hip rotation yet so I'm sure you can see the difference compared to my recent riding. Another reason why I don't carve deep in that vid is that the board is too narrow to carve deep with duck stance even though it's the 161W version. In any case riding like that is something I still enjoy on more mellow runs. Every turn doesn't have to be super rotated.

Yeah, I was thinking about that type of carve as well. I see that video is 2 years old. Maybe in 2 years I can also lay out over the snow in my carves🤔 

Posted by: @xargo

It's hard to say without seeing you ride but if you spin your turns, you might not be applying enough edge pressure (especially the nose) and/or you might rotate too much. Usually people don't rotate enough but if you are specifically trying to rotate a lot, that might actually be part of the problem. It's more likely that you don't apply enough edge pressure though and might be also going too fast for the turn shape. See this to get an idea about the speeds you need: https://carversconnection.com/community/carving-technique/sidecut-radius/

Thanks for the advice and the link! I think I understand what you mean about edge pressure, especially in the front. If I am paying too much attention to rotating my hips without making sure to push evenly along the edge, it make sense that the front end might spin around. I'll pay attention to it the next time I'm out. There was almost a meter of powder at my favorite hill the last few days, but I don't have the next trip planned... 

 


   
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Posted by: @fooltoque
Yeah, I was thinking about that type of carve as well. I see that video is 2 years old. Maybe in 2 years I can also lay out over the snow in my carves🤔

Entirely possible if you are willing to put a lot of effort into it. I mean what easily happens is that you learn something new and then you feel like you want to enjoy that skill and forget to keep on pushing your limits. I don't mean that's wrong, it's just that deep carving involves so many things to learn that you have to keep practicing every time you hit the slopes if that's your goal. I think it's also important to enjoy riding so give yourself time for that as well but keep the goal clear in your mind if that's what you want. For me it took around 150 sessions to get from solid carving skills to the kind of stuff I do now but remember that I didn't have the tutorials that are available now.

Posted by: @fooltoque
If I am paying too much attention to rotating my hips without making sure to push evenly along the edge, it make sense that the front end might spin around.

Just to be clear about shifting weight forward to not spin/skid, the idea is not to prevent front of the board from spinning but rather to engage the edge there so that the rest of the board can follow and decamber the board into the turn shape. By pressuring the front a lot, you risk spinning the rear though so you have to maintain some sort of balance. The main point is that when you have a good balance, it feels as if you are riding your front heel during the heelside carve and rear toes during the toeside carve but that doesn't mean all the weight is on one foot, just most of it.

Here's some new high framerate footage where you can maybe see the weight shifts a bit better. This is again with symmetric duck stance so ready for switch once I get a hang of it:


   
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