Heel lift question

Even though it's tightly packed together, your foot is still a bag of bones and you can lift your heel up in the stiffest of ski boots.  So yes, she is correct but a good orthotic and molder liner can transfer the energy with less slop.  I have far less heel lift issues on my softies compared to my hard boots.  

You’ll probably always be able to leverage your heel out of the bottom of any boot, especially if you’re strapped into a binding so the heel of your boot is held down 

And I don’t know if this goes without saying… But we shouldn’t be doing calf raises when we’re riding anyway so I don’t think this is a big deal. 

@superfelix yea i know we don't do the calf raise movement - forgot to put that in the title

But sometimes I do feel like my heel rises when I'm doing the up-unweighted turns, even though I don't think about doing calf raises

I'm going to disagree here... and I do everything I can to eliminate that feeling.  Also, my outer ankle bone protrudes a lot and I'd rub the skin off of it (been there, done that, not fun).

J-bars, Intuition moldable liners, additional flat insole shim... either the whole thing, or cut the heels off and just use them to wedge the heel.

But first, are you in the right mondo size boot that matches the length of your bare foot (in mm)?

Lars has a good series on boots:

Angry has a play list here:

Lots of good solutions here:

https://www.tognar.com/ski-boot-fitting/?srsltid=AfmBOorDCqCUPlBAfrj1SqZa2SwG4jVBDw5oBSO9A7Bm7U76K2INy1sE

@skoonk I must have misunderstood you, if you feel it when riding it’s bad. I have <5 mm of travel if I try to leverage my heel out of the heel with a calf raise, but that requires some effort, but I do have some travel. 

Before modding my boots I had some heel lift when riding and it ripped the skin of the outer ankle bone like @board-doctor mentioned. Probably had about 10-15 mm of travel when doing a calf raise. 2/10 do not recommend. It took over a month to fully heal. I’ve also started taping the ankle bone to avoid it happening again even though my boots fit much better now

I am proof that snowboardbootsizer is suspect- "never" is a terrible term.  My left foot  is 29.5, right is 29.0.  I ride in 29.0 boots that are also size 11's.  My Doc Martens are 11's, my Keen safety toe work boots are 11.5's and my Hush Puppy chelsea's are 11's.  All my MTB shoes are 11's or 11.5's.  The only exception is my western boots which are all 10's or 10.5's.  Speaking in absolutes like he does drives me nuts, especially when we know how much sizing varies across manufacturers.  I did not see anything about shell fitting a boot, which is more accurate than a numerical system.  I also can't remember the last time I saw a Brannock device in a ski or snowboard shop.  30 years ago when I was working at a local shop, we had a simple device made by Nordica that measured mondopoint.  

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I also can't remember the last time I saw a Brannock device in a ski or snowboard shop.

The problem is that a lot of people don't go into a "REAL" shop.  If you go to a general sporting goods store they may just have a brannock, and if people are ordering online they may unknowingly just use their shoe size.  I agree that "never" is not a good description, but I can see why he did it.  Doing online sales he's probably dealt with a number of unhappy customers (once their boots pack out).