Need gear advice for big guy
Posted by: @board-doctorNote that I've increased the waist width by 25mm (292 vs 267), but the underfoot width only increased by 18mm (296 vs 278), due to the 12m vs 6m SCR.
Actually I made a mistake on the 6000 WW. It's only 263 on the 154... so actually went up 29mm in WW, but only 18mm underfoot.
Big White, BC, Canada
Posted by: @board-doctor@carvehard I don't have any experience with Kindred, but their ProCarve certainly looks rad. I'd love to try one. The waist width tops out at 284 though, so I think it's a bit narrow for mondo 290 but it's doable. The C4-166 might be a better size for you.
Effective edge makes a HUGE difference in your confidence on the heelside. You really need to drop your hip out over the edge, almost like a "trust fall", so it's reassuring to know that it's going to "catch" you.
Yes, the ProCarve looks good.. also Titanal construction.
I only see waist at 276mm for the 171 Wide. Where did you see 284 ?
At the same time, you don't want the waist too wide for icy conditions, it would become difficult to obtain edge pressure.
I don't mind using risers
According to Ride is the effective edge on my current board 1250 mm, Waist 251mm, tip/tail 300.5, sidecut 8700/7700/8700, but not a carving board at all.
Yes, confidence is a big part of the heel side, and confidence is hard to get if the slopes are icy and you constantly feel the board skidding.
I'll hope for better conditions next time I go.
Btw. nice that Kindred is Canadian and not a US product. As European we need to take our precautions 🙂
@carvehard If you order a "Wide" ProCarver it's 8mm wider.
On ice I'm generally avoiding steep slopes and higher edge angles. With underhang I (subjectively) feel like the board needs to be over 45 deg in order to get my weight stacked over the edge... And then the 12 m is a bit fast if I'm not really pressing into it and tightening up the turn. I love the titanal and EE, but the C4 isn't my prefered ice board. But I'm talking real ice (serious thaw/freeze), not just icy hardpack. As long as I can get the edge in it absolutely rips.
Big White, BC, Canada
Posted by: @board-doctor
This video actually makes pretty good sense to me.
I'm not at expert level, so 1 cm boot overhang on each side for a more versatile board is perfectly fine for me at this point.
If I ever reach expert level and can angle the board to a boot-out, I can start with a set of risers.
@carvehard You're boots are 30mm longer than mine, so that should give you around 10-11mm of rear overhang on the C4 (less up front).
Big White, BC, Canada
Posted by: @board-doctor@carvehard If you order a "Wide" ProCarver it's 8mm wider.
On ice I'm generally avoiding steep slopes and higher edge angles. With underhang I (subjectively) feel like the board needs to be over 45 deg in order to get my weight stacked over the edge... And then the 12 m is a bit fast if I'm not really pressing into it and tightening up the turn. I love the titanal and EE, but the C4 isn't my prefered ice board. But I'm talking real ice (serious thaw/freeze), not just icy hardpack. As long as I can get the edge in it absolutely rips.
In Europe I believe most ski resorts start the season by making a base of snow with canon.
I the start of the season this snow will melt and freeze constantly and become an icy base.
This icy base will often be visible at the end of the day, if no natural snow have fallen for a long time and makes the life of a snowboarder pretty hard.
@board-doctor
but you are right, you don't want a fast high sidecut board on ice 😱
I just ordered a custom Kindred Tsitika. 168cm long by 30cm waist width.
Production time is 2-3 weeks. STOKED.
Wow! Fast decisions
would like to hear if is enough of a carving board, once you have tried it.
good luck with it… I’ll keep your topic alive 🙂
The JJA C4 sounds very tempting, but the price is a bit too high for something I would use for 7 days a year
@carvehard My Kindred Tsitika is ordered, and I've talked to Evan (shaper/builder at Kindred) a couple of times. He seems super knowledgeable of carving needs for varying range of body types and abilities, including fine details like side cut radius, camber, etc...
It seems like the Tsitika is very good for learning carving techniques on easier slopes before ordering a full-on trench cutter for steeper slopes. Then it doubles as an all-mountain board.
Evan says the progressive side cut radius gives it a broader range and makes it more forgiving for beginners.
The best part is that I'll get delivery in 2-3 weeks and can test it before the season is over. That will keep my stoke level high during the long SoCal summer. Also, the price is very reasonable for a custom board.
When I get the board, i'll post an update.
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