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Topic starter 19/01/2025 1:55 pm
the intention was to make them a bit more forgiving and easier to ride, easier on the body. Would you say that was achieved? And is that what Jasey will continue to make for this model? Thanks : )
Yes, I would definitely say we achieved an easy riding board that's very forgiving and easy on the body. It's very noticeable, especially when I'm coming off a stiffer race construction board.
And yes, this will not change. The C4 will remain the C4. I expect to have at least one C3 demo at Montucky too; this is a slightly smaller and narrower version for icy or crowded resorts and smaller riders. And some C5 demos! The C5 is a step up, for expert level riders who have mastered the C4 and want to go faster and experience more g-force in their turns.
I'm just slaying...
Damir reacted
24/01/2025 7:20 pm
@wild-cherry What a board... I'm thinking about an asym or the next C5, but for the moment I'm really happy and must be happy with this!
However, I put some plates under my 255 MP Insanos to get more leverage and make faster edge changes. Feels perfect! I worked so much on the backside that I slept on the toeside. It looks like a surfy style turn, now I should try to angulate more without breaking the waist. It feels like a really good, strong and stable position but I would try a more extended body position.
And... look at these frames.
This post was modified 4 weeks ago 2 times by Iacopo
24/01/2025 10:06 pm
I'm writing this review after riding the C4 (medium stiffness with EGS) for 5 days.
Summary:
If you want the ultimate edge hold while doing laydown carves in various snow conditions, look no further—C4 is the best!
Full Review:
Every season, I’ve been trying out a new snowboard for carving.
Here’s my progression of carving boards, from least good to best:
Korua Café Racer+ 159, SG Soul 159xt, Virus X-Carve Zylon II 163, and finally, the JJA C4 166.
When the C4 arrived, I have to admit I was a bit intimidated.
It’s almost 2cm wider, much stiffer, and has a longer sidecut radius compared to both the SG and the Virus.
For context, my boot size is mondo 27 (US 9, EU 42), and I ride with high binding angles (F39, R33), so boot out isn’t an issue. I weigh 80kg at the moment.
The Virus X-Carve has been the best carving snowboard I’ve owned so far, so I’ll compare the C4 directly to the Virus.
C4 vs. Virus X-Carve (Zylon):
Rebound (pop) when changing edges:
The C4 has about 20% less pop out of the turn compared to the Virus.
Edge change effort:
It takes about 10% more effort to change edges because of the wider waist width—but after one day, you won’t even notice it.
Where this board really shines is in edge hold!
It’s at least 40% better than my Virus. It gives you so much more confidence to go faster and steeper.
I rode it in fresh snow with small moguls—it cuts through them like a sword!
On icy groomers, the edge hold is unmatched—it’s unlike anything I’ve tried before!
Even today, riding in slushy, rainy conditions, the board sinks deep into the snow and still holds its edge at higher speeds.
Because of the incredible edge hold at higher speeds, you get more than enough centrifugal force to power out of a turn when laying down on your heelside.
Over the past 5 days, the mountain conditions haven’t been ideal for carving, and my technique isn’t perfect, but I’ve had the most fun with this board. It holds an edge like no other!
If you’re looking for a carving machine that can carve deeper, deliver insane g-forces, and keep you stable at high speeds—look no further. The C4 is the board for you. It’s worth every penny!
25/01/2025 1:56 am
On the rebound…
At 73kg I didn’t think the soft proto without the EGS had much at all. On the medium with EGS I could feel it was there, but I really had to work/drive it in order to access it.
Now at over 80kg I’m on a soft with EGS and quite like it. A little more rebound for the transition, but certainly not dramatic.
Big White, BC, Canada
Wild Cherry reacted
25/01/2025 2:05 am
I expect to have at least one C3 demo at Montucky too; this is a slightly smaller and narrower version for icy or crowded resorts and smaller riders.
I’d certainly be interested in that! The C4 is a bit much for my size 8’s if I’m not digging a trench.
Big White, BC, Canada
Wild Cherry reacted
Topic starter 26/01/2025 1:14 pm
The C4 is a bit much for my size 8’s
Feels a bit narrow sometimes for my 8.5s... I'm using risers too.
if I’m not digging a trench
What the heck else would you be doing with it?
Stick with it man, this is the right board for you. Especially in the soft groom at Big White. By this time next year you'll be craving the C5 Asym! (And packing your gear for Montucky!)
Where this board really shines is in edge hold!
It’s at least 40% better than my Virus. It gives you so much more confidence to go faster and steeper!
Wow! Thanks for this review!
This is a great comparison by a rider who has an extensive quiver of high end soft boot carving boards. None of the other original 30 C4 buyers had ever ridden a wide soft boot Titanal or Zylon board before, and comparisons with Doneks or Strandas are less meaningful.
This post was modified 4 weeks ago by Wild Cherry
I'm just slaying...
Damir reacted
27/01/2025 1:34 am
What the heck else would you be doing with it?
It was very mild early season, with lots of freeze/thaw cycles… For the icy mornings I really wanted the titanal & effective edge, but the underhang was a chore. I just want another board for that. 😂 Otherwise, I agree the C4 is the one! If I had the choice between the 162 & 166, I’d still take the 166.
Big White, BC, Canada
Wild Cherry reacted
31/01/2025 3:34 pm
I rode the C4 this season in Japan and my biggest regret is not getting this or a carver board earlier.
The edge hold on the C4 is something extraordinary; better than any boards I had in the last 20 odd years if riding. James speced my board with extra grip, maybe that played a role.
During late afternoon, the runs were tracked out but the C4 handled them with ease and powered thru them.
It was also dumping in Japan and instead of switching to my pow board I gave C4 a try. Surprisingly, it handle decently in dry JPOW condition.
I think this board opened up an entire new spectrum of learning for me which is important as i got bored riding the same "all mountain" duck stance.
There is so much to learn from this board and I look forward to ride it to its limits.
I loving it.
04/02/2025 8:47 am
@emaildavidchang Appreciate your review! I'm considering a C4 (assuming another production run is on the cards) and one of the biggest questions is performance in Japan - specifically on pow days (I'm unlikely to pack multiple boards when travelling to Japan due to logistical reasons).
Glad to hear that the C4 works decently across a variety of conditions.
Topic starter 04/02/2025 8:57 am
Glad to hear that the C4 works decently across a variety of condirions.
It does, but it's primarily a carving board. It'll float in powder but it's not ideal. It's not a quiver of one, I would definitely consider packing or renting a pow board for Japan.
I'm just slaying...
04/02/2025 2:24 pm
I would definitely consider packing or renting a pow board for Japan.
Noted, thanks James. Not sure if this is the place to ask - but when would the next production run of the C4 take place? I popped my details down on the wait list a little while back but haven't received any comms about it.
06/02/2025 7:56 am
They're being built now! Gonna announce them in a week or two, as soon as they're ready to ship.
LET'S GOOOO
