James (@wild-cherry) is bringing canting plates to the market - these are universal for softboot bindings - I'm going to get them as soon as they are available for front foot toe rise and back foot heel rise canting.

Posted by: @grip

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Cross posting from ASB forum. Does anyone make/sell a riser plate that can add heel lift? Would need to work with Burton Step On bindings.

These are coming, but not quite yet.  They are compatible with the Step-On binding but not the Burton channel system.

I expect to pick up my sample this week and if everything works as expected they'll go into production locally right away.

will the amount of rise and cant described in the store?

Yes.  It's no secret, it's 3 degrees.  One end is 10mm thick and the other is 23mm.  There is no cant on this first batch, only rise.  I figure most bindings have cant in them already so I would have to make multiple options to suit everybody.

It's the butterfly wing riser that's ready to ship first though.  We're just in the process of adding it to the store and figuring out the best shipping options.  Canada Post just went on strike, that doesn't help.

@wild-cherry Does the toes up or toes down angle line up with the Trenched logo?

The offset alignment of each half gives the angle the bindings will be set at?

No, these are flat, 13mm.  They're live in the store now with lots of information in the description.   Canted riser coming soon

If there's people out there with a CAD program and a 3D printer then the potential for personalised lift/cant combos is waiting.

Posted by: @riotsupercarver

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If there's people out there with a CAD program and a 3D printer then the potential for personalised lift/cant combos is waiting.

It's true.  I have 100 of the metal interface pieces and a printable file ready to go.

Turns out 3D printing was not an affordable option so we're milling these from solid HDPE instead.  Should be in stock in two weeks.

But you don't want to print the whole thing, you need a metal interface because the plane of the board is not parallel to the plane of the of the binding base.  You could print a wedge and put in on top of your binding footbed but this will result in a loose boot to board attachment, especially if you want to get some height off the board to reduce boot out.  We may be producing something like this next season, but we decided two kinds of risers was enough to start.

I would really like to get the performance of the Butterfly Wing BX riser with the positioning advantage of the canted riser.  The canted footbed wedge is a good solution for this because you already have the height of the Butterfly Wings so the wedge can taper to zero thickness.

The other issue we're working on with the footbed wedge is how to stick it to the footbed so that it's easily removable, this would be required for some bindings (not all).  Sticky back velcro strips were considered but I anticipate that the velcro would be stronger than the sticky tape side in the cold so it becomes a maintenance issue, requiring careful removal of the wedge and constant replacement of the strips.

I welcome any input.  In the past I have used contact cement to attach custom formed rubber strips onto my footbeds, but this is a highly customized solution requiring different sizes and shapes for each binding model and size.  Not marketable.

Having never tried any of this, so from the perspective of a complete noob in that area: wouldn't it be better to cant the whole binding? I can feel it under my boot when there's a foreign object on the footbed, so any wedges there would have to be pretty well-made and finely tapered, otherwise they'd probably indude pressure points, no?

Also, what's the direction we want the cant? I guess it's towards the center of the board, right? In my opinion it's much more flexible to have a canted riser, and then when you put your binding on it at the desired stance angles on that it already has the correct mix of sideways / toe / heel cant because the whole binding is canted.

I do know quite a bit about 3d printing, though, and I understand why wou wouldn't want to produce 100s of these on a printer. It'd be very possible to have them made-to-order automatically, though, with a bit of smart templating in the CAD file, a bit of Web wizardry and a good print farm. My own printer is way too small for any of this, though, but I've been thinking of getting / building a bigger one so maybe that'll be one of my projects when finally get around to that.

Posted by: @emilecantin

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wouldn't it be better to cant the whole binding?

That's the conclusion we came to, but it could be way simpler and cheaper to cant the footbed.  Plus, then I could be taking advantage of the increased performance of the Butterfly Wing riser and have canting too!

Anyway, there's gotta be six sets of bindings in my boardroom with custom canting so I can use one of those with the Butterfly wings and my new NX2s with the canted riser.

Posted by: @emilecantin

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Also, what's the direction we want the cant?

Most bindings come stock with about 2 degrees of inward canting already, for posi-posi carving what we want is heel list in the back foot and toe lift in the front foot.  

Posted by: @emilecantin

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building a bigger one so maybe that'll be one of my projects when finally get around to that.

Lemme know.  I almost considered taking it on myself but I have some very important turns to make this winter...

Lifts start spinning in 10 hours and 10 minutes.