@turms Thank you for your opinion on my situation. I just need to make a decision: return the fasteners to the store or keep them for myself. I can't take a ride and feel it, they will lose their presentation.
my previous deeluxe edge was size 27. I bought the new ones 26.5. it seems to me that I don't remember 26.0. these fit snugly enough on the foot.
yes i know. I also have tis thema with the bindings , boots etc. It is really difficult.
IF your feet are 26, you have to consider to buy boots with 26 MP. Maybe not now, but next time.
The must fit snugly. As long as you do not have any pain it is ok.
My feet are 27.7 and 27.8
My boots are 27.5. If i buy the Deeluxe i am thinking either the 27.5 or the 27.0
Only a snowboarder knows this feeling. And once you've felt it for yourself, it's impossible not to want more. It's so addictive that it should be illegal, but it's not and that's why they make such good snowboards that after riding them you want to sell everything and move to the mountains, because a man has to have a balance in his life, and that balance should be 80% snowboarding and 20% working.
the foot in deeluxe boots is very tight. even at size 27, my heel does not come off the insole. at 26.5 I feel tolerably cramped. When I come to the resort, I often ride for 12 hours a day without taking off my shoes. by the end of the day, the legs swell and 26.5 is very tight. so I'll stop at 26.5 for now. next time I'll look at 26.0
But if the Driver9 + NX2 in L/XL are not the best combination, i would look for something else. Good that i now , however
PS i thought you have MP 26.5. Is this not the US 8.5 ?
Turns out it is, you're right. Driver X size 9 is mondo 27. I'm a 26.5 though, and I'm buying the Insanos in a 26.5. I had an old set of Insanos, circa 2009. Great boot, still useable today. An occasional Boa replacement and that was all. Now I ride harder. We'll see if the Insanos last longer than the Driver X. I only got 40 days out my last pair of Driver X.
As for the binding fit, it's not great but I make it work. NX2 Carbon is still my #1 binding right now. I would like to try the medium though, and/or maybe the Hybrid.
your boot still has play in a too wide footbed your boot will shift not matter how hard you tight them down
I have to disagree, sorry. The Flow NX2 has boot crushing straps and I crank them hard and my feet don't shift in the footbed. Can't speak to any other binding, I usually find my size.
My boot stiffeners and custom liners distribute the load better across my foot so that I can crank the bindings down hard without pain. When I'm carving I almost always crave a stiffer interface, especially when the cord is smooth. There are limits of course for bumpy surface or very tight runs, but when it's good, stiffer is better (for me). I lose circulation sometimes in my feet, that's when I know the bindings are too tight.
I think the Insano is a fairly low volume boot (inside & out), hopefully your mods will fit. I wore the 21/22 for a good part of that season, but they're not very warm and they're also pretty harsh underfoot. We really didn't get along. The tongue is nice and stiff and the boot doesn't really flex, it just articulates. I put maybe 30 days on them (and I'm not sure if they're really broken in yet).
Last year I got the K2 Thraxis and the liner was toast in 15 days. I got the Intuition Pro-Flex, added strap-ins, maybe got 70 days total out of them (but they were getting soft by 60).
I'm onto the Vans Verse now and so far like it a lot. There's a power strap around the top of the liner that's anchored to the back spine that works really well. I haven't added the tongue stiffeners yet. The liner seems to be high quality, though it is a bit too plush and I intend to replace it. The Pro-flex was one of Intuitions softer liners, so I want to try the mid-flex Dream Liner next (but it's currently lost in the mail).
I've actually contemplated sizing up the Insano and using a higher volume liner for a better fit to my foot. It'd be warmer too... but still feel harsh in rough conditions.
vans verse are really nice and stiff. Unfortunately the us 10 is too big, and the us 9.5 dindt feet with my toes. I used them only 7 days, and i had to resell them.
This was in April 2022. And my toe nails from the left foot, are still not 100% ok. Thankfully one of the few thinks in life that someone can "replace" without cost
Only a snowboarder knows this feeling. And once you've felt it for yourself, it's impossible not to want more. It's so addictive that it should be illegal, but it's not and that's why they make such good snowboards that after riding them you want to sell everything and move to the mountains, because a man has to have a balance in his life, and that balance should be 80% snowboarding and 20% working.
check out the photo. You have to move both : Highback and Cable, one position back. IF you see the boot is a little bit back in the second photo (on the right)
compare the heels in both photos
i have to mention that this is NOT my picture. Is a picture from another forum in Germany where a member has dedicated much time to test and modify the NX2 bindings and according to his suggestion i made also my bindings
Only a snowboarder knows this feeling. And once you've felt it for yourself, it's impossible not to want more. It's so addictive that it should be illegal, but it's not and that's why they make such good snowboards that after riding them you want to sell everything and move to the mountains, because a man has to have a balance in his life, and that balance should be 80% snowboarding and 20% working.
I must say that hearing you guys talk about flow carbon bindings as being super stiff was a surprise.
so I’m using fuse carbon hybrid with about 50 days on them, ride tridents with 45 days on them in US size 10. Flows are size XL and I have them on the smallest setting with heal cup and cable as far forward as possible. With disc holes edge to edge I can just about centre my boots. Long story but I just downsized boots from 11.5 so that’s why I have XL bindings.
was thinking of changing them for next season because I don’t think they are stiff enough laterally. Very stiff toe to heal. Just don’t feel as locked in as I could be. Is this in my head? Do I just need to crank em down more?
got a 61w deep fake for next season which should carve better than my soft Dancehaul and assassin
was thinking about changing them for next season for the new carbon Supermatic as they should be solid, and a better fit for my smaller boots.
I must say that hearing you guys talk about flow carbon bindings as being super stiff was a surprise.
NX2 Carbon Fusion is stiffer than any soft boot binding I've ridden since 2002. I haven't ridden the Ride A-10 yet but I have yet to see anything else even close. The Flux XV is a good step softer, especially after break in.
This binding has a massive heelcup and is not recommended for carving. See my "Secrets Part II: The Interface" video for actual measurements. Spoiler alert: The Supermatic adds more than 3cm to the overall length of a boot plus binding as compared to the Flow NX2 Carbon Fusion.
I've been back and forth with Flow's for a while now. You can't really compare "stiffness" of something like the A10 to a Fusion binding because they hold the boot in such a different manner. They are not for everyone, but the work very well. A note on sizing- my wife wears a 26.0 Ride Karmyn and uses a large NX2 fusion and still struggles to get out of them on occasion. I wear a 28.5 Ride Deadbolt and my NX carbon's are XL's and though the baseplates are wide on my boots, the fusion strap doesn't allow for any movement once it's latched in. The sizing is odd, but it's meant to accommodate a wide variety of boots, of which there is also a wide range of shell volumes. FWIW, my A10's are now my binding of choice on my powder board (Rossi Sushi).
I’ve been riding Flows for over 20 years and have found that the changeover from the solid plastic baseplate to the padded foam occasionally complicates entry and exit. For super casual riding you can be loose enough that the foam doesn’t grab, but if you go one click tighter from a more performance lock in, it will sometimes make a little more work in and out. It’s a bit of a trade off for some more all day riding cushion.
Would almost be nice for them to do an option like Flux where there is no cushion, like they used to be.
@thehoff you made the mistake and bought the hybrid edition.
The Straps from NX2 Carbon Fusion are much stiffer as these from NX2 Carbon Hybrid. Unfortunately i made the same mistake. The Hybrid are stitt, but the straps are not so stiff as in the Fusion edition. However if the will be softer after some time (either Fusion or Hybrid) i do not know
However before i bought them i ordered the
Union Atlas Pro
NX2 Carbon Hybrid
Bend Metal Solution
Ride A-10
I have to say that the highback from the NX2 is incomparable. No one from the other three is so stiff and solid. Even the bent metal solution which Bent Metal gives stiff 11/10
Of course the NX2 are maybe NOT the stiffer in the market- But in Europe with a price range till 310-320 Euro the NX2 Carbon is the stiffest.
Only a snowboarder knows this feeling. And once you've felt it for yourself, it's impossible not to want more. It's so addictive that it should be illegal, but it's not and that's why they make such good snowboards that after riding them you want to sell everything and move to the mountains, because a man has to have a balance in his life, and that balance should be 80% snowboarding and 20% working.
@thehoff said he has the Fuse carbon hybrid. That uses totally different baseplate than the NX2. Fuse is carbon reinforced plastic and NX2 is aluminum. I have the Fuse carbon hybrid and I can confirm that they are pretty soft laterally. Perfect for my style but don't offer much lateral support for steeper angles. I also have Nidecker Kaon-CX and I thought Fuse carbon hybrid would have the same straps but Fuses actually have way softer straps. Super comfy but not the most supportive. I haven't tried NX2 carbons but looking from the product images, they seem to use the same straps than Kaon-CX.
NX2 carbon hybrid:
Fuse carbon hybrid:
I have now ridden the Fuses for about 5 sessions and I feel like they are even softer laterally than Salomon Quantums which are supposed to be very flexible due to the Shadowfit. Flow specs seem to agree as well. NX2 carbon hybrid is rated 10, 10, 10 (response, toe-heel stiffness, lateral stiffness), while Fuse carbon hybrid is 8, 9, 8.
Btw. this years Flows have footbed with a slick patch that helps you slide your boot in. Mine have that and it works great.
a ok. The difference betwwen NX2 carbon hybrid and Fuse carbon hybrid are except the baseplates also the straps.
To mention something about straps: if someone checks at Flow website there are available straps for NX2 Carbon Fusion. Theoretically someone can change from NX2 Carbon Hybrid to NX2 Carbon Fusion (the fusion straps are stiffer). However the straps which are coming with a new bindind, are stiffer than these which flow has als spare parts. They have the same Code (11-H1 i think), however they are not the same.
I suppose the same for the NX2 Carbon Hybrid.
I didnt want to believe it, but i ordered a pair of spare straps for NX2 Carbon Fusion, and they are really soft. No comparison with the originals which are with the new bindings
Only a snowboarder knows this feeling. And once you've felt it for yourself, it's impossible not to want more. It's so addictive that it should be illegal, but it's not and that's why they make such good snowboards that after riding them you want to sell everything and move to the mountains, because a man has to have a balance in his life, and that balance should be 80% snowboarding and 20% working.
